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Address: 17-18 New Street, Covent Garden
Although New Street is now called New Row and seems a quiet backwater, that was not always the case. It received its new name only in 1937 and once upon a time it was one of the more important streets leading to Covent Garden (more on the history of the street here). The shop occupied by Moseley & Son can still be admired. If you compare the Street View vignette with the situation now, you will see that the outside is more or less the same as it was in 1839; the windows and doors are still where they were then and the two corbels on either side of the fascia board and gutter look old enough to be original.
But what clinches the matter is the skylight that can be found inside the shop. On a trade card for the Moseleys, the round structure in the centre of the ceiling can clearly be seen, although it does not seem to let much light through. Nowadays, however, it certainly brightens up the interior.
In earlier records (before 1834), the firm is listed at number 16 New Street, but I am not sure that they moved. Perhaps it was just a case of renumbering, something the Victorians seem to have been quite fond of. Which John Moseley gave his name to the shop is unclear. According to an 1862 advertisement (see below), the shop had been established in New Street in 1730, but I have not been able to find out whether that was by a John Moseley. There was certainly a John Moseley in charge in the early 19th century. For instance, an 1810 record with the Sun Insurance Office lists John Moseley of 16 New Street, plane maker. “The Sun insurance records show that John Moseley was the possessor of a horse mill in the yard of his premises, which means that some kind of manufacturing was taking place, as the mill would have provided power to run a saw or perhaps a grinding wheel”(1), so he did not just sell tools, he made them as well.
John Moseley died in 1828 and in his will he names his four sons: John, Thomas, William and Richard.(2) To complicate matters he also had brothers with the same first names; brothers Richard (of Piccadilly) and William (of Peckham Rye) are named as two of the executors. Brother Thomas is not mentioned in this will, but became a minister and was one of the executors of brother Richard’s estate (Richard died in 1856). From John’s will, we also learn that, although the shop was in New Street, he resided in Lympstone, Devon. The family must have had a house in that county for quite some time as both sons Richard and William are baptised in Devon, although John and Thomas were baptised in London.(3)
In the 1841 and 1851 census records, we just find William in New Street, but in 1861 both William and Richard are listed there as toolmakers. That Richard was staying overnight at New Street was probably just accidental as in 1851 and 1871, we find him with his wife Jane and children in Clapham and Lambeth respectively.(4) In 1851 Richard is listed as “assistant clerk cutlery warehouse” and in 1871 as “retired plane maker and cutler”. Although the actual place of work is not stated, one may assume he worked in the family business.

Catalogue of tools (Source: Bristol University Library – Special Collections, see here for complete catalogue)

1862 advertisement (Source: Grace’s Guide)
1862 is a year full of changes for the firm. In that year, William had a new property built at 27 Bedford Street. In the catalogue for the 1862 International Exhibition, 54 Broad Street (later 54-55 Broad Street) is listed for the first time, which may very well coincide with the split of the business into a retail and a wholesale branch. Around the same time they must have moved from New Street to 17 & 18 King Street because “their manufactury having been pulled down to form the New Street from Cranbourne Street to King Street”. Not quite sure what road scheme they are talking about here as whatever property was pulled down, it was not 17-18 New Street as that is still there. A bit of reshuffling must have gone on, as around the same time, Joseph Lilly, bookseller can be found at 17 & 18 New Street, whereas Tallis mentions him at number 19. I will try and find out some more information about the building work and the relocations.

Source: hackneytools.com
In January 1865, William died and probate (value £18,000) is granted to his brother Richard.(5) After William’s death in 1865, Richard continued the business. In 1867, the partnership he had with his son Walker and one Thomas Elis Hooker, is dissolved. Richard is to continue the tool making at King Street and Bedford Street, Walker and Thomas will continue the electric bell making, clearly they were branching out into more modern equipment.(7) As we saw from the 1871 census, Richard retired somewhere between 1867 and 1871, but the business is continued. However, Richard seems to have failed to do anything with the administration of his brother William’s estate, as in 1890, Henry Kingdon Moseley of Ipswich, solicitor (the son of Richard and William’s brother Thomas) reapplies and is granted probate; the value is now just a little over £914.(6) In 1892, the business is taken over by Wm. Marples & Sons. Tools continued to be made in London until 1904 when the production was relocated to Sheffield.(8)
(1) Guildhall Library Manuscript Section, Electronic Newsletter, issue 10, winter 2007/8, online here.
(2) National Archives, Kew: PROB 11/1742/138.
(3) John, born 31 Jan. 1796, baptised 13 Feb. 1797 at the Independent Chapel in Fetter Lane; Thomas, born 12 April 1806, baptised 4 July 1806 at the Independent Chapel in Bull Lane, Stepney; William, born 17 March 1808, baptised 3 Aug. 1809 at the Presbyterian Chapel at the Presbyterian Bow Meeting, Exeter; and Richard, born 7 April 1812, baptised 17 Nov. 1812 also at Bow Meeting, Exeter.
(4) Jane Brook and Richard Moseley married in 1833 at Wakefield, Yorkshire. Some of their children were born in that county, so I assume Richard worked there for quite some time before coming back to London, although I have not found the 1841 census record for the family to substantiate this. In 1861, Walker Moseley, the eldest son who also worked in the cutlery business, was the head of the household at 13 Union Grove, Clapham, providing a home for four sisters and three brothers. Where their mother Jane was at that time is uncertain.
(5) England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1865.
(6) Idem, 1890.
(7) The London Gazette, 9 August 1867.
(8) Information from www.mot.be.
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What a fantastic amount of information available
Thanks Don, glad you like my efforts.
excellent. Its very hard to find much about the old plane makers but you have done a huge amount of research on Moseley and sons.
Thanks
Thanks James for your kind comment. I love doing research and these shopkeepers make excellent subjects for blog posts. There are more tool/plane makers listed in Tallis, so if there is a particular one you are interested in, let me know.
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What a fabulous well researched brief on John Moseley & Son. I wanted to find out about him as I have recently inherited some moulding planes from my Grandfather who was a carpenter and cabinet maker. He died in 1971 but his tools have only just come to me as his son had them but never used them. He died just 2 years ago. Two of the moulding planes have the name of John Moseley & Son, London stamped on the end. It would appear they are even older than I thought they would be.
Hi Len,
Thanks for your kind comment and wonderful that you inherited some Moseley tools. It would be a great shame if tools like that disappeared completely because nobody uses them any more. Hang on to them!
Cheers,
Baldwin
Hi
Came across a Moseley moulding plane today, donated to the friends shop at a museum I work at. It is stamped as being from New Street. Does that mean it is pre-1862?
What a nice donation! Yes, I am almost certain that ‘your’ plane must date from before 1862. I have not come across any mention of the New Street address after that date.
I have a John Moseley & Son Infill Smoothing Plane. The brass/bronze lever cap just has “MOSELEY & SON”, then “London” Underneath, no other part of the address. The metal finishes at the front, with the rosewood infill showing. Any idea of the date please?
It is almost impossible to date a Moseley tool more precisely than “sometime in the 18th or 19th century” if it gives no clue as to the address the firm was working from at the time the tool was made. Perhaps a tool expert can work it out from the design, but I certainly cannot, sorry.
You could try the Hawley Tool Collection, Alma Street in Sheffield for some indication of age
Wow, I’ve got a whole box of planes that were my Dad’s inherited from a good friend of his who was a carpenter in the Royal Navy, lots of them are marked Moseley. I have tried and am still trying to find a good home for them since my Dad died 10 years ago as no-one wants them, which breaks my heart. They had pride of place in his cellar. Thanks for this information.
Hi Rachel,
Nice that the tools have been kept and not thrown away. Maybe the tools history society is interested in them: http://taths.org.uk/
Good luck,
Baldwin
Rachel
I would be interested in looking at them and possibly buying them to add them to my Grandfather’s collection I recently inherited. He had some Moseley moulding planes amongst his two tool chests.
Hi
i have purchased a Moseley and sons Plane but when i took out the blade it wasn’t a Moseley and sons blade it was a different company, did they outsource they blades to another company or use their own blades.
cant find anything on google. if anyone can help me
Thank you
What was the name of the other company?
Alex mathieson and son
Presumably this firm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Mathieson_%26_Sons, I have not found any links either, but it is quite possible they were each other’s distributor.
Just found this! Looking into the Kingdon’s of Exeter. Samuel ‘Iron Man’ Kingdon’s sister Elizabeth married John Moseley who was born in Exeter. Elizabeth’s brother Zachary who died in 1795 might have been working for/with John Moseley at New Street, Covent Garden as he mentions the two in his will. John Moseley died Exmouth/Lympstone in 1828. That probably answers the question why one of his relatives has one of his names as Kingdon.
Thanks for that. It certainly explains Henry’s second name of Kingdon. I also noticed in the 1871 census for Richard and Jane Moseley that they had a daughter Lydia K. She was most likely the Lydia Kingdon who married Robert MacFarlane Cocks in 1875.
Did you notice, by the way, that the 1828 will for John mentions Thomas Walker as one of the executors. This Walker also appeared in the will of John Hawkes, see the post on Hawkes and Moseley at 14 Piccadilly https://londonstreetviews.wordpress.com/2014/12/02/hawkes-moseley-and-sons-military-warehouse/.
This is fascinating. I have just found a listing for Kingdon and Moseley, wholesale Ironmongers and Plane Makers, 16 New Street, Covent Garden for 1794 in Wakefield’s Merchant and Tradesman’s General Directory for London, Westminster, Borough of Southwark and Twenty two miles circular from St. Pauls. Was this a London outlet for the Exeter, Kingdon, Iron works?
Wonderful find. It sounds as if they had a partnership. Outlets were not usually listed together in a directory. Will try and find out.
So I bought a brilliant chest with eight wooden moulding planes yesterday and I have started attempting to date them, at least approximately. One of them reads:
MOSELEY
16 NEW ST
Specifically no J or John, no “& SONS”, and this address should help, but I’m struggling to figure out when this plane was made by piecing information together, can you help?
Hi,
As it says 16 New Street, it will certainly be before 1839 when Tallis produced his street views. I’ll try to find out a bit more precicely when the house numbering changed and will get back to you.
That’s greatly appreciated, thank you!
The earliest I found numbers 17-18 New Street is for November 1834 when William Moseley, plane maker, takes out an insurance on the property. Before that he was at number 16, so I think your planes must be from before 1835. I have not found any evidence when the Moseleys started exactly at number 16 as the earlier records frequently omit the house number, but they were certainly there in 1806 when John took out an insurance. They may very well have been at number 16 all throughout the 18th century, but I cannot prove that. Hope this helps.
They were ceainly in New treet in 1794 (see above comment from August 16). Samuel Kingdon of Exeter mentions John Moseley (his son in law) in his will of 1797 as being of New Street Covent Garden, plane Maker but doesn’t mention the number unfortunately.
I have a 30 caliber rimfire combination knife pistol marked “Moseley & Son London”. Any records of John Moseley making any combination knife pistols. It has parkesine grips, so it was made after 1862. I currently have the item for sale.
I have not seen an advertisement for knife pistols, but it would not surprise me if they made them. Or possibly just the knife-section, leaving the pistol-section to others. The Moseleys did produce semi-manufactured material to be incorporated in products finished by others. The catalogue at Bristol University Library shown in the blog post does list “pistol do”, but I think the ditto refers to planes or routers, not to knives.
I have , for sale , nine John Moseley profiling planes with two addresses for Moseley & Son . One is at Broad St. London and the other at 8 Old St. Road . I wondered what years they were active at these premises.
I can only tell you that the Broad Street address appeared for the first time in 1862.
I have a plane which states John Moseley 54 – 55 Broad Street Bloomsbury but am confused with dates is this pre 1800
No, that is not pre-1800 but a later address, probably after 1862
fantastic piece of work, thanks for putting it online
Hi, we have inherited some old wooden planes from my wife’s father, and I have just started to look at them a bit more closely. One of them is a 22 inch plane, stamped with the name John Moseley and Sons at 54-55 Broad Street, and has a William Marples blade – would it therefore be reasonable to assume that it dates from some time between 1892 (when they were acquired by Marples and 1904 when production was transferred to Sheffield?
Not necessarily Duncan. A new blade could have been fitted into an older plane. Does the blade just gives the name of Marples, or also ‘London’ or an address? The plane was certainly made after 1862 as they were only listed at 54 Broad Street in that year. I don’t know exactly when they also acquired number 55, but I will try to find out for you.
Regards,
Baldwin
What a great inheritance to receive. I inherited my Grandfather’s 2 tool chests full of old planes and chisels, saws etc etc. A number of the wooden moulding planes were John Moseley & Son. All his planes cut superbly well still today.
Hi just bought 6 carving gauges Moseley & son Covent Garden on 2 blades Moseley & son cast steel on 4 smaller blades all similar handles appear to be similar date wise any idea from my description of a date? Regards Terry
Sorry Terry, no I don’t know what date to put on your carving gauges. Covent Garden was the general area the family traded from over the centuries and Moseley & Son does not help either. As you will have seen from the blog post it could have been made anytime in the 18th or 18th centuries.
Baldwin
I have some of my late father’s joinery tools, with his name stamped on them) from when he did his Carpentry and Jounery Apprenticeship back in 1937. I was looking at a large wooden plane yesterday when I saw the name John Moseley & Son and the address printed on it.
How lovely to be able to look up the history of these tools. I’m sure he could tell me a lot about these magnificent tools if he were still here.
Hi, Bristol University link seems not to work any more. I tried to search on their current library site for this Tools Catalogue but could not find it. Do you recall what the catalogue was called?
Thanks
Something seems to go wrong there. If you search for Moseley on https://archives.bristol.ac.uk/, the top two results are relevant, but if you click on either of them, the thumbnails don’t work. Don’t know what the problem is; maybe they are reorganising things and is it only a temporary glitch.
I have a tool made by John Moseley. I dont know what it is though. It is made of wood. It has “A.Vidler” stamped on it.
Can anyone date a John Moseley & Son London, 2 1/2 , 22 inch long plane, with a W Marples & Son ( Hibernia ) Blade in it. Was one of my late fathers tools, he was a master cabinet maker way back.
A Vidler would have been the joiner who owned it and used it. Mosley made many different types of planes.
I have a J Moseley plane and blade, (date unknown) the address stamp for Moseley is:-
34 – 55 BROAD ST BLOOMSBURY. LONDON